Post by Laura Chow on Dec 25, 2004 23:32:55 GMT -5
[glow=limegreen,2,300]This one is from Brent Handy. He's not signed to Statue.
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:51:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "B Handy" <lowdbrent@sbcglobal.net> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: label companies
To: crave4music2004@yahoo.com
Thanks for the e-mail.
I don't know what you do, or how old you are. I speak
what is on my mind. Take no offense.
Statue is not a real label. There are five REAL
labels on the planet. These five own smaller labels,
some indie. Statue is not owned by the big boys.
They will do nothing for you.
What you should consider is this:
1. A real label will come calling when they see you
putting money in your pocket from selling out regional
shows, playing a circuit, selling CD's on iTunes, CD
Baby, Amazon.com, etc. You need them more then they
need you and they know it. There has to be a demand
for you, or the potential for one.
2. Labels don't just send a contract. Someone will
come see you, or you will be taken to where they are.
They will watch you in your element. They will
interview you. You will have a legion of lawyers to
deal with. with lots of paperwork. It isn't as easy
as a deal in the mail.
3. The best way to make things happen is on your own
for now. You will owe the label money, or end up
paying a majority of the expenses yourself. So why
cut someone else in on YOUR money? If these guys at
the label are so connected, then why hasn't anyone
heard of them, and why don't they have some
credentials? Because they have no more clout in the
industry than you do as an indie. So why give them
your money?
3. I have an indie label now. I have a band that I
assembled to make the record (John Schlitt, Louie
Weaver, Kerry Livgren, etc, etc). I will be selling
CD's on the internet, where I will keep all but $4 of
my sale price. I will sell it at Family Book stores,
Lifeway, etc where I get to keep all but $8 per CD.
If I had a label, one of the big five, then I would
get 3 CENTS MAX per disc, and then out of that they
would deduct the "recoupable expenses" like an
adavnce, expenses, etc, etc. Nirvana never made a
dime off of CD sales. They were indebt. Their first
CD was a big hit, and they were in the hole $25,000.
They made their money from touring.
4. The internet accounts for 10% of the CD sales sold.
Walmart accounts for a large chunk of the rest.
Amazon.com accounts for 90% of the internet sales.
iTunes is the legit download provider. That's where
you need to be. What you need is not a label, but a
manager that has an "in" with the music industry,
marketing, etc to create a stink so that people know
that you are there. If you are THAT good, then God,
or a family member or somebody will hear about you,
and the funds will come, and you will be off. Pray
about it first. Make sure that you are willing to
starve a few years, and that your obligations are few.
That's what it takes to make it.
5. One of the bands that I have mixed for sells about
10,000 CD's annually. They make $8 per CD. That's
$80,000.00 annually. It can be done. This is small
time mind you, but $80k will put some clothes on your
back and buy alot of 99 cent tacos.
Send me an MP3 or a CD. I'd be interested to hear
your music.
Thanks
Brent Handy
HA! Recording LLC, Tulsa, OK
918-664-4952
harecording@sbcglobal.net
[glow=limegreen,2,300]This one is from an artist signed with Statue Records[/glow]
From: "Salman Anwer" <write2musicarian@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: crave4music2004@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: about Statue Records
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:22:43 +0500
Hi Laura !
Well ! These day, I'm receiving all these question from different
people who
have been offered the same deal by Statue..
Yes ! They have released my album and selling it through their
website.. I
haven't recieved my royalty payments yet sine it takes 6 months and
it's
just been 3 months of my release..
Let's see what happens with Royalties.. I think I'd be able to say
something
with surety after receiving these payments.. but this is for sure that
they
are selling the CD's and delivering it to the international buyers sine
one
of my friends had purchased my album and they sent the CD to her in
Glasgow,
U.K. Rest has been fine with me..
You've asked about the promotion.. I can't say much about it cuz I'm in
Pakistan and they are in U.S .. so I don't know if this CD is palyed on
the
local US radio or not.. but I think they would get the air play cuz
after
all they would earn by selling more CD's through this.. This is a
logical
explaination..
Rest of things have been fine with me.. The contract seems ok to me..
there's nothing in it to bind you.. You can even release the same album
with
another record company since the rights are yours..
So if you're looking to first make yourself heard then there's nothing
wrong
with this deal.. Usually first deal never gives big bucks.. but one has
to
make his/her market first.. once you're a bit known to people then you
can
get a better deal and make money with your next albums.. This is my
point of
view.. Now it's up to you how you see it or what your plans are.. :-)
Hope it would help..
Musicarian.
www.musicarian.cjb.net
www.soundclick.com/musicarian
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:51:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "B Handy" <lowdbrent@sbcglobal.net> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: label companies
To: crave4music2004@yahoo.com
Thanks for the e-mail.
I don't know what you do, or how old you are. I speak
what is on my mind. Take no offense.
Statue is not a real label. There are five REAL
labels on the planet. These five own smaller labels,
some indie. Statue is not owned by the big boys.
They will do nothing for you.
What you should consider is this:
1. A real label will come calling when they see you
putting money in your pocket from selling out regional
shows, playing a circuit, selling CD's on iTunes, CD
Baby, Amazon.com, etc. You need them more then they
need you and they know it. There has to be a demand
for you, or the potential for one.
2. Labels don't just send a contract. Someone will
come see you, or you will be taken to where they are.
They will watch you in your element. They will
interview you. You will have a legion of lawyers to
deal with. with lots of paperwork. It isn't as easy
as a deal in the mail.
3. The best way to make things happen is on your own
for now. You will owe the label money, or end up
paying a majority of the expenses yourself. So why
cut someone else in on YOUR money? If these guys at
the label are so connected, then why hasn't anyone
heard of them, and why don't they have some
credentials? Because they have no more clout in the
industry than you do as an indie. So why give them
your money?
3. I have an indie label now. I have a band that I
assembled to make the record (John Schlitt, Louie
Weaver, Kerry Livgren, etc, etc). I will be selling
CD's on the internet, where I will keep all but $4 of
my sale price. I will sell it at Family Book stores,
Lifeway, etc where I get to keep all but $8 per CD.
If I had a label, one of the big five, then I would
get 3 CENTS MAX per disc, and then out of that they
would deduct the "recoupable expenses" like an
adavnce, expenses, etc, etc. Nirvana never made a
dime off of CD sales. They were indebt. Their first
CD was a big hit, and they were in the hole $25,000.
They made their money from touring.
4. The internet accounts for 10% of the CD sales sold.
Walmart accounts for a large chunk of the rest.
Amazon.com accounts for 90% of the internet sales.
iTunes is the legit download provider. That's where
you need to be. What you need is not a label, but a
manager that has an "in" with the music industry,
marketing, etc to create a stink so that people know
that you are there. If you are THAT good, then God,
or a family member or somebody will hear about you,
and the funds will come, and you will be off. Pray
about it first. Make sure that you are willing to
starve a few years, and that your obligations are few.
That's what it takes to make it.
5. One of the bands that I have mixed for sells about
10,000 CD's annually. They make $8 per CD. That's
$80,000.00 annually. It can be done. This is small
time mind you, but $80k will put some clothes on your
back and buy alot of 99 cent tacos.
Send me an MP3 or a CD. I'd be interested to hear
your music.
Thanks
Brent Handy
HA! Recording LLC, Tulsa, OK
918-664-4952
harecording@sbcglobal.net
[glow=limegreen,2,300]This one is from an artist signed with Statue Records[/glow]
From: "Salman Anwer" <write2musicarian@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: crave4music2004@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: about Statue Records
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:22:43 +0500
Hi Laura !
Well ! These day, I'm receiving all these question from different
people who
have been offered the same deal by Statue..
Yes ! They have released my album and selling it through their
website.. I
haven't recieved my royalty payments yet sine it takes 6 months and
it's
just been 3 months of my release..
Let's see what happens with Royalties.. I think I'd be able to say
something
with surety after receiving these payments.. but this is for sure that
they
are selling the CD's and delivering it to the international buyers sine
one
of my friends had purchased my album and they sent the CD to her in
Glasgow,
U.K. Rest has been fine with me..
You've asked about the promotion.. I can't say much about it cuz I'm in
Pakistan and they are in U.S .. so I don't know if this CD is palyed on
the
local US radio or not.. but I think they would get the air play cuz
after
all they would earn by selling more CD's through this.. This is a
logical
explaination..
Rest of things have been fine with me.. The contract seems ok to me..
there's nothing in it to bind you.. You can even release the same album
with
another record company since the rights are yours..
So if you're looking to first make yourself heard then there's nothing
wrong
with this deal.. Usually first deal never gives big bucks.. but one has
to
make his/her market first.. once you're a bit known to people then you
can
get a better deal and make money with your next albums.. This is my
point of
view.. Now it's up to you how you see it or what your plans are.. :-)
Hope it would help..
Musicarian.
www.musicarian.cjb.net
www.soundclick.com/musicarian